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	<title>Comments on: Thunderbird &#8212; Features Discussion</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Hudson</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I don't think you can divorce the focus of the project (&#038; therefore what features it should provide) from how the project should be set up.

Simply changing from Moz Foundation to Tbird Inc. isn't going to significantly alter the success of the project as far as I can see.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I don&#8217;t think you can divorce the focus of the project (&#038; therefore what features it should provide) from how the project should be set up.</p>
<p>Simply changing from Moz Foundation to Tbird Inc. isn&#8217;t going to significantly alter the success of the project as far as I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Iang (there is only one mode...)</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Iang (there is only one mode...)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To echo CableGuy's comments (original post) there are a couple of big things to look at in Thunderbird.  Firstly, email is "so 1990s" ... the world has moved on ... chat is now the way much comms is done, and younger generations are not adopting to email necessarily.  Simple solution:  add chat to Tbird, alongside email and move it in the direction of a "communicator".

Secondly, the security model employed in Tbird is out of date.  People generally send emails to people they already know, and there are simpler methods of securing p2p comms than the current design.  The trick is to eliminate any modes that are unnecessary.

If searching for a value statement and a direction, look at Skype.  Of course, it would be crazy to add VoIP to Tbird ... but it isn't unreasonable to add chat and p2p security.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To echo CableGuy&#8217;s comments (original post) there are a couple of big things to look at in Thunderbird.  Firstly, email is &#8220;so 1990s&#8221; &#8230; the world has moved on &#8230; chat is now the way much comms is done, and younger generations are not adopting to email necessarily.  Simple solution:  add chat to Tbird, alongside email and move it in the direction of a &#8220;communicator&#8221;.</p>
<p>Secondly, the security model employed in Tbird is out of date.  People generally send emails to people they already know, and there are simpler methods of securing p2p comms than the current design.  The trick is to eliminate any modes that are unnecessary.</p>
<p>If searching for a value statement and a direction, look at Skype.  Of course, it would be crazy to add VoIP to Tbird &#8230; but it isn&#8217;t unreasonable to add chat and p2p security.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy Nigg</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Nigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL ... I know there is that mailing list. I wanted to know which one to use. Anyway, subscribed and getting engaged! See you there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8230; I know there is that mailing list. I wanted to know which one to use. Anyway, subscribed and getting engaged! See you there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sunbirds lightning calendar is already there. The idea was to add Instant Messaging, and serverless Retroshare Email and Messenger.
Think it is more important to hear, what you not say , than what you say about Thunderbird.
Google wants Firefox as G-Browser, nothing is done to disturb Google Mail by enhancing Thunderbirds features. This is the reality. -&gt; Google Foundation !
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sunbirds lightning calendar is already there. The idea was to add Instant Messaging, and serverless Retroshare Email and Messenger.<br />
Think it is more important to hear, what you not say , than what you say about Thunderbird.<br />
Google wants Firefox as G-Browser, nothing is done to disturb Google Mail by enhancing Thunderbirds features. This is the reality. -> Google Foundation !</p>
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		<title>By: David King</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>David King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it should be given to the Open Office.org people to use as an Outlook replacement...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it should be given to the Open Office.org people to use as an Outlook replacement&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott MacGregor</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott MacGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the newsgroup:

mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird

Cheers,
-Scott
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the newsgroup:</p>
<p>mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
-Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Veditz</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Veditz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mailing list for which? the newsgroups news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird and news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.calendar are both available as mailing lists
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mailing list for which? the newsgroups <a href="news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird" rel="nofollow">news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird</a> and <a href="news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.calendar" rel="nofollow">news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.calendar</a> are both available as mailing lists</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lefevre</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lefevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddy: There is actually a mailing list - https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-thunderbird

The difficulty is that the lead developers (at least mscott, who does most of the front-end work) tend to participate more in the web forum.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy: There is actually a mailing list - <a href="https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-thunderbird" rel="nofollow">https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-thunderbird</a></p>
<p>The difficulty is that the lead developers (at least mscott, who does most of the front-end work) tend to participate more in the web forum.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bienvenu</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bienvenu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The newsgroup news.mozilla.org on mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird and its mailing list twin dev-apps-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org are where Thunderbird developers discuss Thunderbird developer issues.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The newsgroup news.mozilla.org on mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird and its mailing list twin <a href="mailto:dev-apps-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org">dev-apps-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org</a> are where Thunderbird developers discuss Thunderbird developer issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy Nigg</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/07/27/thunderbird-features-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Nigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mitchell...get us a mailing list for that please. Thanks!

(You don't have to post that in the comments)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mitchell&#8230;get us a mailing list for that please. Thanks!</p>
<p>(You don&#8217;t have to post that in the comments)</p>
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