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	<title>Comments on: Firefox is a Public Asset, part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Timbuk2 Tasche</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/08/09/firefox-is-a-public-asset-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Timbuk2 Tasche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good informations. For me Firefox is not the place to test the effects of the profit motive.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good informations. For me Firefox is not the place to test the effects of the profit motive.</p>
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		<title>By: George Rypysc</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/08/09/firefox-is-a-public-asset-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>George Rypysc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having trouble seeing how discussions about the Mozilla/XUL platform versus Firefox itself have anything to do with ensuring the public interest.  It seems the software licensing terms themselves do that.  Then it becomes a popularity contest between &quot;open&quot; licensing (support of open standards too) versus the &quot;closed&quot; competition.  Since MoFo/MoCo has made great gains in this popularity contest, then it&#039;s important to ensure its future.  I think Matt sees a dose of capitalism as helping ensure survival and future progress, while the licensing does the job of ensuring &quot;openness&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble seeing how discussions about the Mozilla/XUL platform versus Firefox itself have anything to do with ensuring the public interest.  It seems the software licensing terms themselves do that.  Then it becomes a popularity contest between &#8220;open&#8221; licensing (support of open standards too) versus the &#8220;closed&#8221; competition.  Since MoFo/MoCo has made great gains in this popularity contest, then it&#8217;s important to ensure its future.  I think Matt sees a dose of capitalism as helping ensure survival and future progress, while the licensing does the job of ensuring &#8220;openness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Hecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asa: First, you&#039;re correct: &quot;clean air&quot; is a better example, in fact it&#039;s one of the canonical examples of public goods.

Re education, I don&#039;t think we need to get wrapped around the axle debating whether a particular thing, whether it be education or the Internet, is a public good in the economic sense. (And IMO we can&#039;t just unilaterally declare &quot;the Internet is a public good&quot; in an economic sense.) I think the better way to approach it is to ask, &quot;Is an open Internet in the public interest?&quot; (not, &quot;Is it a public good&quot;). Clearly the answer is yes; in economic terms the Internet as it has existed has &quot;positive externalities&quot;, i.e., good things have happened as a result of the Internet existing, and those good things have accrued not just to the private entities who helped build the Internet and the services that run on it, but to the general public as well. Given that answer, then clearly promoting the idea of the open Internet (as in the Mozilla Manifesto) is in the public interest as well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asa: First, you&#8217;re correct: &#8220;clean air&#8221; is a better example, in fact it&#8217;s one of the canonical examples of public goods.</p>
<p>Re education, I don&#8217;t think we need to get wrapped around the axle debating whether a particular thing, whether it be education or the Internet, is a public good in the economic sense. (And IMO we can&#8217;t just unilaterally declare &#8220;the Internet is a public good&#8221; in an economic sense.) I think the better way to approach it is to ask, &#8220;Is an open Internet in the public interest?&#8221; (not, &#8220;Is it a public good&#8221;). Clearly the answer is yes; in economic terms the Internet as it has existed has &#8220;positive externalities&#8221;, i.e., good things have happened as a result of the Internet existing, and those good things have accrued not just to the private entities who helped build the Internet and the services that run on it, but to the general public as well. Given that answer, then clearly promoting the idea of the open Internet (as in the Mozilla Manifesto) is in the public interest as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Glazman</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2007/08/09/firefox-is-a-public-asset-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Glazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my perspective, the problem can be summarized that way : we (the community) and you (Mozilla Corp/Foundation) have a false view of our ecosystem because we/you are taking the problem the wrong way. Instead of looking at Firefox built upon XULRunner, we should see Firefox Runtime, the core of Firefox.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my perspective, the problem can be summarized that way : we (the community) and you (Mozilla Corp/Foundation) have a false view of our ecosystem because we/you are taking the problem the wrong way. Instead of looking at Firefox built upon XULRunner, we should see Firefox Runtime, the core of Firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: Asa Dotzler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asa Dotzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Thanks, Frank.  I see where I got it wrong on food. Substituting something like &quot;clean air&quot; might work better.

The reason I ask, is that I want to be able to clearly articulate how these terms would apply to Mozilla&#039;s efforts to educate the public about the importance of the Internet, the Open Web, etc.

This gets a little recursive, but couldn&#039;t it be said that a Mozilla education program focused on raising awareness of the importance of the Internet as a public good is itself a public good/service provided by Mozilla?  Could &quot;education&quot; be a product right alongside Firefox, provided as part of our public benefit/interest mission?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Thanks, Frank.  I see where I got it wrong on food. Substituting something like &#8220;clean air&#8221; might work better.</p>
<p>The reason I ask, is that I want to be able to clearly articulate how these terms would apply to Mozilla&#8217;s efforts to educate the public about the importance of the Internet, the Open Web, etc.</p>
<p>This gets a little recursive, but couldn&#8217;t it be said that a Mozilla education program focused on raising awareness of the importance of the Internet as a public good is itself a public good/service provided by Mozilla?  Could &#8220;education&#8221; be a product right alongside Firefox, provided as part of our public benefit/interest mission?</p>
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