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	<title>Comments on: Mozilla Foundation Activities</title>
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		<title>By: Mozilla Foundation activities, week ending 2008/06/27 &#171; Frank Hecker</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/06/27/mozilla-foundation-activities/#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozilla Foundation activities, week ending 2008/06/27 &#171; Frank Hecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eaves, Mark Surman (including a followup), Glyn Moody, and Mozilla&#8217;s own David Ascher and Mitchell Baker. There&#8217;s also lots of good stuff in the comments to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Promoting Innovation &#171; davidwboswell</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/06/27/mozilla-foundation-activities/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Promoting Innovation &#171; davidwboswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mitchell mentions, the Mozilla Foundation needs to devote its activities to promoting choice and innovation on the Internet. The Mozilla Corporation and Mozilla Messaging subsidiaries of the Foundation have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Creating Mozilla Foundation 2.0 &#171; Frank Hecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creating Mozilla Foundation 2.0 &#171; Frank Hecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mozilla Foundation&#160;2.0 June 30, 2008   Recently Mitchell posted her thoughts on how the Mozilla Foundation might go about expanding the scope of its activities, in response to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Remixing the Mozilla Manifesto &#124; eaves.ca</title>
		<link>http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/06/27/mozilla-foundation-activities/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>Remixing the Mozilla Manifesto &#124; eaves.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] growing number of us are carrying on an open conversation about the Mozilla Foundation, it&#8217;s future, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

I like your idea of the funnel, along with the concentric circles.  I think at this point we may want to encourage lots of ideasvery broadly, , as you discussed.  But the things that work through the funnel to become Mozilla Foundation activities should be in a concentric circle very close to something that's already working.</description>
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<p>I like your idea of the funnel, along with the concentric circles.  I think at this point we may want to encourage lots of ideasvery broadly, , as you discussed.  But the things that work through the funnel to become Mozilla Foundation activities should be in a concentric circle very close to something that&#8217;s already working.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Surman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Surman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitchell: I agree that organizations like Mozilla need to constantly ground the big picture vision in the concrete. At Shuttleworth Foundation, we've got a big dream: making South Africa an open knowledge society. However, this is only interesting because we're doing very specific things, like creating free, collaboratively produced textbooks, that test and model this big dream in the real world. Without this, it's all hot air.

Of course, it's not always clear which concrete things to work on until we stumble upon them, especially when you are trying to something like engage the Next Million Mozillians. I like your concentric circles idea as a way to do this process of idea stumbling (yes, of course it's more systematic than that) close to home. For Mozilla, I can see how this would surface ideas that build concretely on existing talents while still moving beyond just software products. And also help figure out the outer boundaries over time. 

A question: do you just start with the next circle out from the core (spreading the Seneca open source developer education model to more places)? Or do you jump a little further out from the start (inviting the millions of Mozillians to post online about how they've put the Manifesto into action in their lives)? Or do you find a couple of simple, concrete ways to play close to home and further out simultaneously? 

Obviously, closer to home means its more likely that the idea will be a fit ... and further out means your more likely to see genuinely new ideas and new people coming to the table. It seems both are desirable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitchell: I agree that organizations like Mozilla need to constantly ground the big picture vision in the concrete. At Shuttleworth Foundation, we&#8217;ve got a big dream: making South Africa an open knowledge society. However, this is only interesting because we&#8217;re doing very specific things, like creating free, collaboratively produced textbooks, that test and model this big dream in the real world. Without this, it&#8217;s all hot air.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s not always clear which concrete things to work on until we stumble upon them, especially when you are trying to something like engage the Next Million Mozillians. I like your concentric circles idea as a way to do this process of idea stumbling (yes, of course it&#8217;s more systematic than that) close to home. For Mozilla, I can see how this would surface ideas that build concretely on existing talents while still moving beyond just software products. And also help figure out the outer boundaries over time. </p>
<p>A question: do you just start with the next circle out from the core (spreading the Seneca open source developer education model to more places)? Or do you jump a little further out from the start (inviting the millions of Mozillians to post online about how they&#8217;ve put the Manifesto into action in their lives)? Or do you find a couple of simple, concrete ways to play close to home and further out simultaneously? </p>
<p>Obviously, closer to home means its more likely that the idea will be a fit &#8230; and further out means your more likely to see genuinely new ideas and new people coming to the table. It seems both are desirable.</p>
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